Bernina Fan Club Archives
June 1995
Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 15:07:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Why I upgraded to the 1630
Darlene,
I also traded up to a 1630 from a 1230, which like your 1130, I really liked.
At the time I was psyched about the creative possibilities of the 9mm stitch
width, and especially the PC interface.
I was at first concerned about the change in hook mechanism, and the supposed
loss of stitch quality. I've yet to really discern a difference in stich
quality. The machine feels different, if nothing else the rotary hook has a
different rythym, and of course, the wider needle slot, feed dogs, and
presser feet.
The only real loss is the degree of auto-tension. I never remember adjusting
my 1230 or 1130 very much, whereas the 1630 requires adjustment for extremes,
such as a heavy denim seam with three cord thread.
I have to tell you that at first I was a little disappointed with the
machine. (So much so that when a 1130 was posted for sale at a reasonable
price I bought it as a backup!) Since I've learned my way around it a bit
though, I've done some pretty neat stuff. The 9mm satin stitch is really
beautiful, and the maxi stitches can produce incredible border designs.
There are some very useful new practical stitches and programs as well. The
buttonhole, as you may have heard, is great, but not enough to be the basis
for a trade-up.
It doesn't have a huge library of built in stitches, but what I've discovered
is that they are very good stitch components that can easily be combined to
form new stitches. In fact, many of the stitches on other machines are
really just different combinations of the basic stitches. Also, the program
keys offer additional flexibility.
I also have the PC software, which is quite usable. However, digitizing
embroidery stitches is painstaking work. Scanning really only provides a
template over which you must plot stiches. In the end though,
multi-directional feed dogs don't provide the precision that a computer
controlled hoop can. So, if embroidered motifs are your interest, you might
want to consider one of the embroidery machines.
For free motion work (which I have only dabbled) I prefer the 1130. It's a
much smoother "ride" and threading the eye in the bobbin case (which doesn't
exist on the new bobbin) takes away the headache of fine tuning the tension.
Overall, I'd say that no matter what you do, hold on to the 1130. That may
seem like an extravagance, but you can always sell the machine privately for
the trade-in value. I think that the 1130/1230 series represent the best
combination of classic Bernina with modern electronics -- for most sewing.
If you'd like to experiment with machine decoration, but don't want to give
up Bernina quality, go for the 1630. It still represents a quality and feel
I don't see in other machines.
I didn't mean to go on so much! Hope this helps rather than confuses.
Regards,
Ray
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Date: Wed, 31 May 1995 08:14:38 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Oiling, Lint
I really enjoy the newsletters! I, too, clean and oil my machine quite
frequently, since I am making a storm-at-sea quilt and with all those little
pieces, lint does build up. I clean my bobbin case and oil, as the book
requests. My machine (1230) runs like a top and I have really enjoyed the
many little projects I have done on it. Working, I don't get to sew but
an hour here, 30-minutes there!
Please hold all my mail for the next two weeks and restart on June 12.
Thanks,
Pat
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Subject: Which one?
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 95 05:58:00 PDT
I'm in the market for a new sewing machine, and have heard sooo much about
how wonderful Berninas are. BUT WHICH ONE SHOULD I GET??? I need it mainly
for quilting, piecing as well as machine quilting and machine invisible
applique. Any comments? Thanks.
Jamie
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 11:06:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 5/31/95
Debbie- I have the same problem. I can't get mine really clean because of
that film. I have noticed lately that it is really oily in there and i
haven't oiled it.
This machine makes me crazy sometimes.
Roni
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Date: 01 Jun 1995 09:24:09 MDT
Subject: Re: Why I Traded Up to the 1630
Thanks for your thorough analysis. I don't want to give up the 1130 and I'll
take your comments into consideration to keep it even if I decide to purchase
an upgraded machine.
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 12:40:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Why I Traded Up to the 1630
I, too, can't see much difference between the straight stitch quality of my
old 1530 and new 1630. However, I have not been able to get a good 9 mm wide
satin stitch. How do you do it? Mine tunnels. Also I am interested in
getting the software. How wide can you make designs? I do not have the
upgrade board and my dealer says I won't need it for the program.
Thanks,
Carol
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 95 09:51:02 -0700
Subject: Oiling, lint
I'm not as good as some of you at maintaining my machine. Several of
you talk about removing the throat plate and clearing out the lint
underneath. I have a 1230, and it's not clear to me how to do this.
I look at the throat plate top, and I don't see any screw heads, only
things that look like rivets. How do you get it off?
-- Anne P
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 95 12:14:53 EDT
Subject: Re: Which one??
I recommend you get a 1260 or a 1530. You don't need to get a 1630 for
your needs. In fact, either of those models should more than cover all
you'll ever need.
Ruth B
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Subject: Best Sewing Machine
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 95 12:32:00 PDT
Thanks for all your replies to my question about sewing machines. This is
my first week with this group (or any group, for that matter), since my son
taught me how to "surf the internet". It looks like not many "quilt people"
are too fond of the Bernina 1630. There aren't too many Bernina dealers
in my area, but I'm off tonight to see one of them. I'll probably have more
questions tomorrow!
Jamie
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 16:18:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Which one??
Jamie,
You asked which Bernina to purchase. Well......my two cents worth is; the
1530, IMHO (in my humble opinion) this is the best Bernina. I've been a
Bernina owner since 1977 when my DH bought be the 830 when HE graduated from
college. (yes, he's a real sweetie!) I sewed on the 1230 at a quilting
retreat and I was HOOKED on the computer! I really thought I would NEVER
want a different Bernina. Best laid plans.........never say never!. ;)
So, I recommend the 1530. I've been hearing too many problems with the
1630 even though my dealer keeps bugging me about upgrading. I do not plan
to trade my 1530 for ANYTHING!! ;D
I love this Bernina Group! ;)
Happily quilting in my new "studio" in our basement. It is 15' x 40' and ALL
MINE! My Dh with the Ph.D. designed and built me a 4' x 8' cutting table
that is 40" high. He is a scientist and NOT a carpenter! But the table is
GORGEOUS!!
Happy Quilting!
Debby
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 1995 14:28:03 MST
Subject: Cleaning/Oiling
To remove your throat plate, drop the feed dogs and open the door to
the bobbin case...lift up on the front of the exposed plate and gently
pull up. Next, remove the bobbin case and I think it is called the
race...thoroughly clean and put a TINY drop of oil where indicated in
your manual. put everything back except the bobbin and bobbin case
and run the machine for a few seconds..now sew...machine will purr
like a kitten. One night at Bernina Club we had to bring our machines
and get a lesson in cleaning and oiling. We had a certified Bernina
mechanic that night so I am pretty sure the information is good...at
least works for me...machine never ran better.
Sandra
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Date: 01 Jun 1995 15:01:15 MDT
Subject: Oiling, lint
If it's the sameas the 1130 - lower your feed dogs, and slide backwards.
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 19:12:14 -0700
Subject: Help! My Nina is Pink!
I just finished machine quilting a queen irish chain out of jewel tones only
to find out my Nina is now pink! The Jenny Beyer backing (which was washed
twice before quilting) has bled onto my machine.
Does anyone know how to safely clean it?
Also, I'm now worried about washing the quilt. I seem to recall reading
something about a presoak that would prevent bleeding. Help???
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Pam P
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 00:12:06 -0400
Subject: Re: Which one??
I just bought the 1260 model. I looked at the 1630, thought I would like it
since I'm really getting to computers these days. After I bought mine, I
have heard so muach controversy about the 1630 I'm glad I chose the 1260.
Mainly it depends on your budget, but if you can afford the 1260 I think it
is the best. It has the knee lift and it is just a push the button and sew
machine. I love it. If you are not satisified with your machine you can
trade up within a year . Ask your Bernina dealer about it. Jodi
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Date: 01 Jun 95 19:34:01 EDT
Subject: Reply to: Re: Which One??
If you go with the 1630 you should have the ability to upgrade the software
rather than the machine in the future.
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Date: 01 Jun 95 19:34:09 EDT
Subject: Best Sewing Machine
Jamie, I am a quilting teacher and LOVE the 1630! I did get the walking foot
and straight stitch plate. It does a wonderful job!
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 08:19:55 EDT
Subject: Re: Help!! My Nina is Pink!!
> to find out my Nina is now pink! The Jenny Beyer backing (which was washed
> twice before quilting) has bled onto my machine.
>
> Does anyone know how to safely clean it?
>
Pam: I read somewhere that you can clean the surface of your
Nina with lemon oil. I've not tried it. Good luck.
Bonnie V
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 08:53:40 -0400
Subject: RE: Help! My Nina is Pink!
I had this happen once and am relieved in a way that it happens to other
people. I washed my machine (not a nina at the time) with a mild cleanser
which really didn't touch the coloration.
Over time, the color just went away. Never noticed it on any thing else, not
even white fabric.
The "offending" fabric had been prewashed, but obviously still had dye
crocking off.... The quilt I was machine quilting when this happened is a
big quilt but hangs in my parents house, so I doubt it has been washed yet.
I do not expect "running" type problems, since most dye that crocks just
goes away with the water, it doesn't go and "live" in some other fabric.
Mary Beth
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 09:14:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Why I Traded up to the 1630
If your stitch is tunneling then you can try two things. One is to use a
stabilizer- the type depends on how you are going to care for the piece after
it is done. Or try loosening the top tension a bit, so that the thread lays
on top of the fabric.Good Luck
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 09:26:41 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/1/95
To Jamie Smith who says she uses a sewing machine for ... I'm gonna do my broken record number and say again that the
Bernina 1080 is the best machine I have ever had for all-purpose sewin
requirements. It's computerized, can be had on sale for about $1,000 ...
does everything it does very well, rarely needs adjustment, and has been
trouble free for the 1 1/2 years I have had it. It is the best general
sewing (nothing fancy) machine I have ever had/used. The 1090 costs $1000
more (on sale), and the big difference is a lever to push with thigh . for
raising the presser foot. I couldn't justify another $1000 for that feature
and have not missed it. (But then again, one doesn't miss what one never
had).
Hope this ... along with others' opinions helps. Jamie, there's no
substitute for going to a dealer and trying out as many machines as you can!
Dear Pam,
Re: Jinny Beyer Fabric bleeding/clean machine/wash quilt
I'd wash that quilt in Synthrapol to remove extra dye and prevent bleeding
... follow directions on bottle. And for the machine, isopropyl alcohol on a
cotton ball may do it. If not, mix some with Ivory liquid and wash gently
with a damp cloth (wrung out so nothing drips on machine). Failing that,
Synthrapol should not hurt the machine, and you could try it straight.
For what it's worth, we've found that many Jinny Beyer fabrics (this could be
true of RJR fabrics in general) in redder tones are "bleeders" and require
Retayne as a prewash to set dye, followed by Synthrapol to wash out excess...
For what it's worth, we've found that many Jinny Beyer fabrics (this could be
true of RJR fabrics in general) in redder tones are "bleeders" and require
Retayne as a prewash to set dye, followed by Synthrapol to wash out excess...
If you cannot find Synthrapol at your local art supply store (some carry it),
PineTree Quiltworks discount quilting supplies does carry it ...
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 11:19:39 +0500
Subject: 1630 reliability
I bought a 1630 last December and I've been happy with it, but I was
disturbed to read all the negative comments about it on this list.
Mine is the "new" version, so maybe it has all the latest upgrades.
It sews beautifully and I like the idea that it can be upgraded
without having to buy a whole new machine.
I use it mainly for piecing quilts and I'm learning how to do
machine quilting. I haven't had any problems, but I talked to
my dealer about what I heard on this list. I was even ready
to trade for a 1260 if I could (I'm a worry-wart!).
My dealer said that they have not had any complaints about the
1630. I did have to take it in once to have the tension
adjusted, but the repair man says that an adjustment to
Berninas after shipping is not unusual. They also said that the
rotary hook is used in Bernina's commercial machines. They gave
me a brief history lesson saying that the rotary hook was
first tried out on the 1000 and 1001 models to see how it
would do. Once that was successful, they tried the computer
software out on the 1530. Both were well received so they
put them together in the 1630. They also emphasized that
Bernina stands behind their products.
They did say that it's very important to hold the threads
when you start a seam on the rotary hook models. Otherwise,
they'll be drawn into the bobbin area and can jam. I always
hold the threads anyway, so that's not a problem with me.
In fact other folks had problems during the class with thread
jamming (even the 1260!).
Are there any other happy 1630 owners?
Monica T
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 11:45:39 +0500
Subject: Waxing your machine
I was told that you should use a good quality car wax on your
Bernina to protect the paint. It also allows your fabric to
slide more easily. This may have prevented the dye from
staining the paint on your 'nina.
Don't wax painted plastic surfaces - just the paint that's
on a metal base!
Monica T
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Subject: Re: Help!! My 'Nina is Pink!!
Date: Fri, 02 Jun 95 12:10:28 -0400
Orange oil is a very powerful solvent that is being used more and more
these days in cleaning solutions as a safe (for people) and
environmentally friendly ingredient. Problem is, orange oil really is
so very good at dissolving things, sometimes it can dissolve something
you want to keep!
While bare metal and glass are probably okay, I would be very cautious
about using orange or lemon oil on plastic or any surface with a
finish. Rub a bit on a hidden area and make sure it doesn't dull the
shiny surface before using it all over your machine.
Debbie
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 14:08:16 -0400
Subject: Which One?
I was in the market for a new sewing machine in December '94. I had a 1030
and loved it (although it was un-computerized), but my wonderful husband
thought I should get an upgrade (he's a computer consultant and a tech
weenie--you should see our stereo system--but that's another story!). We
sold my 1030 to a friend (who loves it--she was sewing on her great aunt's
ancient Singer) and we bought a 1530. I had looked at both 1530 and 1630
and for the money, I chose the 1530. I do not embroider a great deal, but I
am a quilting newbie and I sew clothing A LOT!! The 1530 deals with my
needs perfectly.
I would suggest before buying though, to go to your dealer and sit down for
an hour or two and try out different models. Buy the one that suits you and
your needs the best! Good Luck on your new purchase!
Joan
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 16:34:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Why I Traded up to the 1630
Carol,
I too had some tunnelling problems at first. It took me a while to realize
how different it was sewing with a 9mm stitch! You'll find a selection of
stabilizers in various weights will really help. I keep scraps around now
for everything from mending clothes to sewing buttonholes on surfaces that
might otherwise catch on the feed dogs.
Your dealer is right about not needing the upgrade to use the software. If I
remember correctly, the only difference with the upgrade is that you can save
a stitch design from the PC to a blank memory key. My dealer made me a great
price on the upgrade and software together, so it didn't represent a
significant expenditure to have the upgrade.
Technically, you can design stitches several inches in diameter, but
practically speaking, witih anything larger than two inches or so it might be
difficult to achieve an accurate pattern. (That's not just the 1630, but any
machine using multi-directional feed dogs rather than a hoop to move the
fabric.) Still, if the pattern doesn't involve many points that must meet,
you can get away with larger designs.
I really haven't used the software enough to say too much more. Hope this
helps.
Regards,
Ray
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 17:02:21 -0400
Subject: Bernina Walking Foot
Has anyone purchased the newest walking foot (supposedly made to be used with
the 1630 as well as other machines)? I was at my Bernina dealers today to ask
his opinion about Harriet Hargrave's idea of cutting the bar off the center
of the walking foot to improve visibility. He didn't recommend it, but showed
me the new foot which has much larger openings and less metal to get in the
way of my sightline. My foot doesn't have the quilting guide like the newer
ones, but for $85 I'd like to hear about others experiences with the foot.
It's hard to believe that the same foot can work on the 1630 and my 1230. Sue
M.
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Date: Fri, 2 Jun 1995 21:48:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Which One?
Alas, what a problem. I love my Bernina 1530 but I am frustrated because I
want to create on the PC. I have heard not good things about the 1630, and
frankly, one of the fabric stores is not in a hurry to sell me one. So I am
considering buying another machine. I do not want to sell Bernie, but the
problem is how to justify owning two expensive computerized sewing
machines?? Maybe it's just me. My husband is also a stereo freak, not a nut
any more. His system is expensive and he buys and sells all the time. Why
do I feel guilty? Oh well, any recommendations from you experienced Bernina
owners on the Pfaff 7550 as a second machine? The store I currently work for
is now selling them and it would help if I did my samples on this machine.
See my dilemna.... Oh well.
Adeline
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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 06:39:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Which One?I Love my 1630
Believe it or not there are people out here who do like our 1630's. Yes it
is different, you do have to fiddle with the tension in some very special
situations, but my machine works great for me. Some of the designs are
babyish but I used sulky to sew some of the flowers onto my dayghter's
homecomming dress and it was beautiful. The reverse and mirror stitches were
great.
I, too want to use the computer hook up and like an idiot was too busy to go
buy the program while it was on sale.
You will always here more negative comments than positive ones.
Carol
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Date: Sat, 03 Jun 1995 08:33:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: RE:Which one?
Adeline - You are experiencing exactly the same problem I am, only I
actually bought the 1630 since I needed a new machine , wanted the
computerized features and relied on the good reputation of Bernina.
I should have done more testing before I shelled out so much money. My
dealer says I can trade it in for the Viking no. 1+, plus an extra
$500.00 or so, but I don't want that. I want the Pfaff 7550, and my
dealer does not sell Pfaffs. The 1630 is not all bad, but for the price
I paid I don't feel I got my money's worth. The tension is not automatic,
the bobbin winding system is sheer horror, it is totally user-unfriendly
(you have the be constantly re-reading the instructions), the large
embroidery designs often come out distorted, the stitch designer system
is so crude it is almost useless. I feel that the Pfaff is a much better
value for the money. The built in walking foot is its best feature, and
there are more design elements that can be combined. I guess I am not
qualified to rate one overall better than the other, but for me the
Pfaff would have been a better buy, and I may get it yet and keep both!
I don't think we should feel guilty about having both. You only
have to read The Creative Machine to see that there are plenty of people
with 3 or even more machines, and apparently use them all. Hey, if you
can afford it and still keep the wolf from the door, go for it!
Let me know how you make out.
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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 09:26:51 -0400
Subject: Thread-eating Machine
Here is a little hint that I can't remember who gave it to me so I could
give them credit. I always keep a small scrap of fabric (folded) under the
foot. In fact, I have two of them. I sew off the first one onto the
garment or piece I am working on and off onto the second one where it then
becomes the one to sew off of. Not only does this keep your machine from
eating threads, it cuts way down on the thread that you find on the floor
and stuck to yourself. I would think that, over time, it would even save on
the cost of thread, but that would be a long time and not a consideration
for doing it. I think I learned this method when I learned to chain piece
in quilting.
Margaret
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Date: 03 Jun 95 10:32:49 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 5/28/95
Hi Roni,
I have been in our local Bernina Club for six years and my favorite
meetings have been the projects that revolve around a different use for a foot.
Makes sense from a dealer standpoint as we all leave with the featured foot.
I would like to trade Bernina Club ideas with other areas.
Carol
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Date: 03 Jun 95 10:38:10 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 5/29/95
The Canadian Bernina U is in Toronto, August 7-13.
I am only going for Friday night to Sunday. If you need more info I can look up
my brochure for you.
Carol
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Date: 03 Jun 95 10:39:47 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 5/29/95
Hi Marybeth,
Anyone can go to Bernina U. There are classes, fashion shows, dinners,
etc.
Carol
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Date: 03 Jun 95 10:54:20 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/1/95
Hi Pam,
I use white vinegar and water as a presoak. Also, please be careful what
you use to clean the machine. When my son was 2 he was sitting next to me and
my 1130 as I sewed and I found out too late that he was holding a sharpie marker
up to the side wheel as it turned. My DH used lacquer thinner and my 1130 now
has a rough, dull finish. Try alcohol or a laundry stain remover like shout.
Good Luck!
Carol
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Date: Sat, 03 Jun 1995 11:15:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/2/95
Just a little correction... nobody should pay 2000$ for a 1090!
>Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/1/9
>(...) I'm gonna do my broken record number and say again that the
>Bernina 1080 is the best machine I have ever had for all-purpose sewin
>requirements. It's computerized, can be had on sale for about $1,000 ...
>does everything it does very well, rarely needs adjustment, and has been
>trouble free for the 1 1/2 years I have had it. It is the best general
>sewing (nothing fancy) machine I have ever had/used. The 1090 costs $1000
>more (on sale), and the big difference is a lever to push with thigh . for
>raising the presser foot. I couldn't justify another $1000 for that feature
>and have not missed it. (But then again, one doesn't miss what one never
>had).
I bought a 1090 in 5/93 for 1325$. They have hovered in price between
1400-1500$. So that's about 450$ more only. In addition, the 1090 came
with the extension table and hard case, retractable cables. Substract that
from the price difference and you would have very little left to account for
the knee lift and the basting (long stitch) button.
I'm sure that Addy has all the reasons to be satisfied with the 1080.
Personally, I'd recommend the 1090. Over the lifetime of the machine, the
$$ difference amounts to little while the added convenience amounts to a
whole lot!
While the 1090 is almost the same as the 1080, the knee lift IS invaluable.
Ask anyone who's had one for more than 1/2 and hour and they'll tell you
they wouldn't do without it :)
Sylvain
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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 12:21:40 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/2/95
I love my 1630 too. I just finished a vest for my daughter's first grade
teacher. It is the apple vest from Cindy Taylor oates book, came out great.
The satin stitching is top notch, I used some fancy threads, metallics and
rayons, it looks great.
I used Totally Stable, as my stabilizer, lI love that stuff. It works great
with my Bernina.
I heard once to use Turtle Car wax on your Bernina to help the fabric slide
around during free motion machine quilting. I haven't tried it, has anyone?
Hugging my machine.
Roni
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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 12:33:45 -0400
Subject: Re: Bleeding fabrics
I've used both Synthrapol and Retayne very successfully. I thought my DH's
rugby shirt would have to go into the rag bag, but a couple of washings in
Synthropol got out all the bleeding. He thought I was a genius (let's not
tell him the truth, ok?).
I now prewash in Retayne -- can be had from Pine Tree QuiltWorks -- all the time. I've had too many fabrics bleed when I do a final
wash. Very frustrating!
Bunny
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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 13:00:04 -0400
Subject: I love my 1630
I've only had it since November, but I use it a lot and have had no problems.
The problems I have heard people complain about seem more related to the fact
that you have to adjust the top tension when you are doing fancy stuff. If
you drop your top tension and use a stabilizer you should eliminate any
tunneling problem. This problem is not caused by the Bernina 1630, it is
caused because you are making very wide stitches. You will have to lower the
top tension somehow and stablilize on any machine that does wide stitching.
The means to accomplish it just may be different. When you thread the bobbin
case on the oscilating hook machines, you are increasing the bobbin tension,
and then if the machine adjusts the tension to equilize it, you are in effect
lowering the top tension. I have yet to hear from people who are having
problems that cannot be attributed to "pilot error".
If I turned my Bernina red I would be calling my dealer and asking them what
to do. Cleaning the surface of the machine with solvents does not sound like
a good idea to me. I would like to reiterate that when you buy a machine you
should take the lessons that come with it, and learn how to clean and oil
your machine. I bought my machine from a nearby dealer who gives me a lot of
support, in fact I often ask them questions I see here. I am not demeaning
the type of questions, it just worries me people are not getting what they
pay for when they buy a machine. YOu pay for dealer support.
I highly recommend buying a Bernina with the knee lift. I will never have
another machine without it. I don't always remember to use it, but I quilt.
And I can chain piece really fast when I use the needle down option and the
knee lever, I just slide those suckers right under the foot, butt them
against the needle and keep going.
I have sewn on a Pfaff 7550, and I am happier that I bought a Bernina. The
Bernina seems more solid. The new Pfaff 1/4inch foot is $25. So to me that
eliminates the advantage of the Pfaff feet being cheaper.
Well, that's all I have to add. Have a great weekend!
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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 21:26:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 5/29/95
Dear Carol C....thanks so much for responding to my post about Bernina
University! I was beginning to think that noone would be able to answer my
question! I am glad that anyone can attend. It sounds great :)
I have a 1630 and just LOVE it! I paid alot for it and I don't use it as
much as I should. (the Bernina is worth MORE than my car!!!)
Next question...does anyone know when the next Bernina University will be?
Mary Beth
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 95 07:43:54 PDT
Subject: Shopping for machines
I just want to urge everyone who is thinking of buying a machine to shop
around. When I bought my 1090 in 1993 I called several shops in my area to
compare price. $2000 is way too much for a 1090! I finally found a great
deal on mine for $1250, including a class and I didn't have to trade in my
old machine meaning that I could sell it and further reduce the Bernina's
cost! The shop where I bought is 40 minutes away and they are good. I also
live two miles from a different store who would have let me buy a 1090 for
$1800 *and* my other machine. I'm *very* happy that I shopped around!
JoAnn
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 09:45:48 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/3/95
To Sylvain,
I would have bought the 1090 if our local dealer had had a deal that made
sense! My experience is with the 1080, and I agree, the convenience would be
worth some extra, but not twice the $$$. Still, I'm happy with my 1080, and
since I never had the lifter, I don't miss it. But you're right ... it would
be nice, but I can't get a decent price in southern Maine and now have a 1080
I love. Anyone got a used 1090???? (I mean it!)
All best --Addy
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Date: Sun, 04 Jun 1995 09:39:58 -0600
Subject: Re: Which One?
>Alas, what a problem. I love my Bernina 1530 but I am frustrated because I
>want to create on the PC. I have heard not good things about the 1630, and
>frankly, one of the fabric stores is not in a hurry to sell me one. So I am
>considering buying another machine. I do not want to sell Bernie, but the
>problem is how to justify owning two expensive computerized sewing
>machines?? Maybe it's just me. My husband is also a stereo freak, not a nut
>any more. His system is expensive and he buys and sells all the time. Why
>do I feel guilty? Oh well, any recommendations from you experienced Bernina
>owners on the Pfaff 7550 as a second machine? The store I currently work for
>is now selling them and it would help if I did my samples on this machine.
> See my dilemna.... Oh well.
Let's see. Where do I begin? I have a Pfaff 1475, a Brother PC 7000 (including embroidery), a Bernina 1260, and have tried all the others. The basic problem with the new PC machines including the 1475 is the design is driven by the 9mm stitch width. This has required the hook to accomodate a lot of needle positions and the stitch shows it. The PC features are still in development and only work if you spend a lot of time in the design by testing over and over. The embroidery features on the PC 7000 which are preprogramed are outstanding, but it has limited flexibility beyond that. A terrific feature is the automated thread cutter.
If you are willing to play with the machine I would say the 7550 and the 1630 are fine - though tuneups are essential, if you want to sew go for the 1260. I might mention I started my computer age sewing with a Viking and after 3 failures at about 6 month intervals I traded it in. That was 6 years ago.
Just my thoughts. Mary M
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 12:27:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/1/95
Sylvain,
I would have to agree with you on the knee lifter. Couldn't live without it.
When I sit down in front of my serger I always feel a little disoriented
until I remember that I have to use the lever to lift the presser foot!
Ray F
P.S.
La journee n'est jamais perdue; elle survit dans nos souvenirs.
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Subject: Bias Binder Feet
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 95 10:54:19 EDT
I'm going to be applying bias binding "big time" in the next
couple of months. I've done about 5 yards of the stuff already, using
my standard #0 presser foot, and desperately want to find a better
way. My two big problems are applying the binding around gentle curves
(I sometimes don't catch the material in the binding), and that I have
to press the middle crease in the binding, since it comes flat on a
tube (the binding already has the two edges pressed to the center,
but I need the middle crease to make sewing it onto the material easier).
I know that Bernina sells bias binder feet (a #85 and a #84/#94
combo). Will either of these feet help with my two problems, and what's
the difference between the #85 and the #84/#94? Also, about how much
($$$) will these guys set me back (they sure don't look like they cost
the usual $20/foot 8^) ). Thanks in advance.
Susan
P. S. One other question...I have a small illustration of the #85, and
can't tell if it's a true Bernina foot, or just a generic low shank that
needs an adaptor.
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 09:49:32 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Bias Binder Feet
Hi Susan and everybody.
For our anniversary, my DH ordered a 1530 via a very good friend of ours
in Santa Cruz, CA. I won't quote prices, but let me assure you the
prices here in Honolulu would leave you gasping. Since we're leaving in
a year's time, my only interest is Bernina's warranty.
Back to Bias Binder Feet...sorry I cannot help you here. However, if
these accessories are stretching your budget, you can baste your edges
with fusible thread, press your binding, and use your walking foot to
sew the binding evenly on. No problem if you don't have a walking foot.
Since the binding is fused, you no longer have to struggle to keep it
lined up with your edges (providing you pressed it right).
I've been lurking here ever since the 1530 was ordered and have been
joyful that we avoided the 1630 which, decidedly, is more than my needs
require. In truth, the 1260 was just right for me...greedy me..I reached
for the moon!!
CiCi
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Date: Sun, 04 Jun 1995 19:51:45 EDT
Subject: Re: Which one??
It sounds like your Bernina dealer needs to learn how to
adjust and/or repair your 1630. I'm not having the
bobbin-winding problem and my designs come out perfect if I
draw a vertical and horizontal line on my fabric so that I
can guide the fabric slightly.
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Date: Sun, 04 Jun 1995 19:41:58 EDT
Subject: 1630 Reliability
Yes, I'm a happy 1630 owner. I've had mine since November.
Had some problems with automatic buttonholer but all-in-all
it is an impressive machine with loads of creative
possibilities. If one isn't interested in too much
"creativity" then perhaps a more basic model is better, but
I enjoy having a state-of-the art machine.
I, too, have gotten a little nervous over the negative
comments. But then I ask myself if I would go back to my
trusty 930 which I still have, and the answer is always NO!
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Subject: Re: Bias Binder Feet
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 23:14:13 -0700 (PDT)
> P. S. One other question...I have a small illustration of the #85, and
> can't tell if it's a true Bernina foot, or just a generic low shank that
> needs an adaptor.
>
I can help you with this part - it's a generic low shank that needs an
adapter. I can't tell you how great it is yet, because I haven't had
a chance to really use it yet. It was expensive, but not as
expensive as the other one. (Which was the one I went into the store
to get, but about died when I heard how much it was.)
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 06:41:33 -0400
Subject: Re: 1630 bobbin winder
My bobbin winder is fool-even idiot proof. It is even easier than the 1530
since it is easier to catch the end of the thread on the bobbin. There must
be something wrong with your machine. The wide stitches work well, too. I
really have had no problem with either.
Carol
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 08:01:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Walking Foot
>> but for $85 I'd like to hear about others experiences with the foot.
It's hard to believe that the same foot can work on the 1630 and my 1230.
Sue<<
I purchased a newer model walking foot that I was told would work with all
machines (I have an 801). The foot was much wider than my feed dogs and only
sat on one of them. It seemed to work but I was uneasy about it. According to
Harriet Hargraves, there are about 3 walking feet available to fit various
machines since the feed dogs are different widths. The 1630 is wider than the
earlier series. I was told also that Bernina is only making the widest one
now as a "universal" foot for all machines. I'm not sure what the logic is
there. I was able to find a used one that fit my machine from Harriet's shop
and had it adapted. I'm very happy with the results. I use it only for
quilting and the adaptations allow me to see and to avoid the hang-ups at
seams where there are multiple layers of fabric. I am hoping to upgrade to a
1260 this fall (when I might get my life back) and hope that the "new" foot
that I have will fit well.
Hope this helps. It seems to be an ongoing dilemma.
Kathy
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 07:14:09 EDT
Subject: Re: Which One??
I tried a Viking 1+ last Saturday and was greatly disappointed. The
machine itself seemed "rickety" and the outline stitches around the bigger
designs didn't aways match up the the designs and looked weak. I thought I
should hug my substantial 1630 after that. I'm really curious about the
upcoming New Home 9000. The stitch texture on the New Home 8000 has always
been superior to the several embroidery machines (Pacesetter, Esante and
Bernette Deco 500), which are all the same machine. The new New Home is
coming out in June, but won't be available for sale (so I'm told) until
early fall when the dealers have gotten their training.
Ruth B
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 07:27:22 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Walking Foot
I haven't had any experience with the 1230, but the new big walking foot
works very well with the 1630 and visability is no problem. Also, it comes
standard with quilting bars for both the right and left sides. I find them
useful for a great number of tasks.
Ruth B
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Date: Mon, 05 Jun 95 08:19:52 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/4/95
JoAnn in Baltimore posted in yesterday's Digest that she had found considerable
price variation in comparison shopping among Bernina dealers in her area.
Several of us on the newsgroup are from the Baltimore area. Would you please
post information about who was high and who was low (priced)? It would be
good information to know.
Thanks!!
==anita==
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Date: 05 Jun 95 09:59:02 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 6/3/95
Sue, I just heard on Compuserve that Bernina has a new 1630 Key *quilting*
coming out soon. Do you know when it will be available?
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 95 09:13:06 EDT
Subject: Re: 1630 Bobbin Winder
I have no problem with the bobbin winder. Before winding, pull the thread
through on of the bigger holes. Hold on to it and start to auto-wind.
Stop &cut the thread you're holding and finish winding. Maybe that will
help.
Ruth B
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 11:42:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Could it be the heat and ...
Since the humidity has not really that that high here in Maryland yet, the
problem could be the dust and pollen in the air. I just finally turned on
the air conditioner in my house over the weekend and I haven't had any
problems with my machine. The one problem that I have noticed here in
central Maryland is the high pollen counts. The pollen coats everything. If
you are leaving your windows open that could be the problem.
I do a fast clean on my machine when I change the bobbin if I am in the
middle of a project. I clean it totally before I start a new project though.
One thing that I do though is to keep a can of canned air near my machine.
Before I start to sew, I use this to blow off any dust that may have settled
on the machine. I will also periodically use it while I am sewing. I take
off the throat plate and use it to blow out any lint after an hour or so of
sewing. This seems to make a difference.
Mia
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Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 13:59:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Bernina advertising
I have noticed Bernina has not advertised for the last 2 months in either
Sew News or Threads. Does anyone know why?
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Date: Mon, 05 Jun 1995 13:55:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: 1630 Bobbin Winder
CAarol - You say" it is easier to catch the end of the thread on the bobbin"
and I am mystified. The 1630 bobbin winder has you wrapping the thread around
a post, then threading it thru a small hole in the inside of the bobbin (from
inside to outside), then keeping hold of it until you get the bobbin on the
spindle and anchored, then holding on tight while you give it the gas and can
no longer hold onto the thread, and maybe it winds and maybe it doesn't.
I am used to the easy bobbin winding of my old Viking, which simply took the
thread directly from the needle, then over a hook and over the bobbin winder
and wound with no trouble. You also knew which side of the bobbin to insert
in the shuttle wwith no thought, and it always worked. YOu could also insert
the shuttle in the race without almost breaking your wrist, and this is not
so for me with the 1630. It often does not go in right, with resulting havoc.
Do you have some easier method?
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 16:16:35 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Threads
Hi Everyone.
July Issue of Threads has good tips on caring for your sewing machine. I
like his tip of masking tape a straw to cordless hand vacuum.
CiCi
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:32:15 -0400
Subject: Darning on Ninas
Hi all!
A good friend of mine who has a 1230 was asked by her SO "can that fancy and
expensive machine darn socks?" So my buddy called me up and I'm stumped!
Heck, when the holes got to big in my socks, I just tossed them and bought
new socks :-D. Of course my mother wouldn't agree with my method, but hey.
My friend's SO darns his own socks (can you believe it!!!). So the $64.00
question is....can a Nina darn a sock, and if it can, HOW?????. Thanks!
Piece in peace,
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 1995 22:42:54 -0400
Subject: Re: I want to purchase the 807
Hi Gals,
Is anyone interested in selling an 807? Or one of the smaller Bernina with
the knee lift (can't live wothout it!) I'd like a small Bernina to take to
workshops, etc. My dealer says he NEVER gets one in for sale but I am
interested in purchasing one for myself. Or do one of you have a
recommendation on which small Bernina might also fit my needs. I currently
have the 1530 and ADORE it!
E-mail me privately.
Debby
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 00:03:32 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Which One ??
Hi!
The info. I've received on the NH 9000 is that this will be a VERY
expensive machine! There will also be a new scanner. The dealer I spoke
to says she hopes to have it in the store this month! It's going to be
interesting!
Mary
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 95 08:21:28 PDT
Subject: Berninas in Baltimore
In response to Anita's request:
Creative Needle Magic was high. J&L was pretty good, I think their offer was
$1300 or so plus my trade-in and I think they have a better class support
system than where I bought my machine. I bought my 1090 at Sew n Save in
Aberdeen. When I called to ask about price, the owner, Bill, asked me what
the best price I had gotten so far was. When I told him, he knocked $50.00
off that price and never mentioned a trade-in. At the time, they didn't have
a Bernina Club but they have started one recently and they are always very
friendly and willing to bend over backwards to help me. Hope this helps (
and I hope it isn't bad nettiquette to mention names)
JoAnn
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 08:52:15 -0400
Subject: Re: 1630 Bobbin Winder(how to)
I don't know what post you are talking about. To wind a 1630 bobbin:
Hold the empty bobbin in your left hand.
Wrap the thread around the guide.
Stick the thread through one of the holes in the bobbin, inside to outside.
Put the bobbin on the winder, hold the end of the thread, flip the lever over
and step on the foot pedal
Carol
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 09:40:28 -0400
Subject: Yes, Berninas can darn.
My 1630 guide has directions on how to darn socks, it even has a program
specially designed to darn socks.
When I got married 15 years ago, my husband asked me to darn his socks. Not
having a clue I called his mother and she said she would never darn socks
because it causes a hard firm patch on the sock which is uncomfortable. So I
told my husband to stuff his old socks... in the garbage.
I would be more concerned that your friends SO asked her to do menial labor
than finding out how to do it. But then that is just me. ;-)
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 10:25:56 -0400
Subject: Good price
On June 6 Anita Henck asked about good prices in the Baltimore area. That
should be close enough to Delaware to think about buying a machine there
where there's no sales tax. I live in Pennsylvania but bought my Bernina a
month ago at Hayes in Wilmington (inconvenient for you, as it's on the
northern end of Wilmington, but I expect you can find a dealer closer to
you). I saved a little over a hudnred dollars just by driving an extra 20
minutes each way.and that's after I found a price that I liked.
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 11:07:18 -0400
Subject: Re: Good Price
Try also MD Sew &Vac in Clinton, MD. They are right off I95 near Andrews
AFB. I drive 2 hours to shop there.
Carol
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 12:31:49 +0500
Subject: Darning
Content-Length: 367
In my getting-to-know-your-Bernina class last week, the instructor
said that if you darn socks, be sure to use natural fiber thread.
Polyester thread will rub the foot and cause a blister.
Most people in the class said - just throw them away! However,
the instructor covered darning as a good introduction to free-motion
quilting.
Monica T
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Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 10:31:41 MST
Subject: RE: Bernina U and serger recommendations
I have the funlock and love it...primarily I quilt but do make an awful
lot of sports type clothes...works like a dream.....for some garments
I use my machine and finish edges with serger...again a dream....it's
not the most expensive Bernina serger but certainly suits my needs...
oft repeated advice....try all models before you decide....also, make
dealers use any colour of thread except pink...pink doesn't not show
stitch imperfections ...I didn't believe this one till I started looking
at threaded machines at dealers....they are all threaded with pink....
sandra
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Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 14:01:01 EST
Subject: good prices
>>Try also MD Sew &Vac in Clinton, MD. They are right off I95 near Andrews
AFB. I drive 2 hours to shop there.
Carol<<
Their new phone number is 301-856-7200
I-95 exit 7A
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:11:04 -0400
Subject: Re: Darning on Ninas
Use polyester thread to darn with and they will never ask again!!!!!!!!!!!!
Talk about a blister..........Pat
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 14:45:21 -0400
Subject: Re: Darning
The whole idea of using polyester thread is to cause a blister. Anyone who
is too cheap to go out and buy a new pair of socks deserves the blister!!!!
The only reason I would darn a sock is if it is one that I had hand knitted
and that would be because of the time that I had put into making the thing.
Mia
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Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 15:05:25 -0400
Subject: Cleaning Nina
I recently bought a used 1230 (which i love:) that could use a surface
cleaning. There was aome accumulated hand secretions, further coated with a
bit of mechanic grime (after behind reviewed in the shop prior to sale).
The dealer told me he used hand degreaser to clean the surface of the
machines. Since it is not a harsh organic solvent (as paint thinner would
be), he told me it would not damage the surfaces. I went ahead and used the
"orange cleaner' I had bought to clean my hands after doing oil changes on
our car (available in most dept stores). I believe it's active ingredient
is orange oil (don't leave the stuff within kiddo reach: it smells like real
oranges - havent tested for taste :)
The cleaner did wonders on nina. I first tested in a 'back corner' and
veryfied (throughout the whole cleaning) that it did not remove any of the
paint. Both the baked/painted metal and plastic surfaces came out shining
clean, with no sign of any beige ('almond') residue on the rag. The plastic
covers did not get marred, to the contrary. I did notice a difference in
the 'drag coefficient' of the sewing surfaces: they're now slicker, given
that the finger grime is removed.
A word of caution:
While this approach came to me recommended by my dealer and the orange
cleaner worked very well for me, I still would be careful in what products I
would use. Hand degreasers tend to be milder (or they wouldn't be approved
for skin contact) than commercial degreasers that are not intended for human
skin. I wouldn't use the stuff sold to clean (de-smudge) car engines for
instance. And whatever cleaner I use (dishwashing detergent would do if
grime is not allowed to build up), a soft cloth is always in order...
Sylvain
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 15:40:03 -0400
Subject: Re: Darning on Ninas
Gee, I've been darning socks on the machine since my 830! I know it seems
crazy for a $2 or $3 pair of socks, but it is so easy and takes about five
minutes. (Now you're all going to call me a cheapskate!)
While the 1630 does the multi-directional mending, I still prefer using the
darning ring that is supplied with the machine (which would be the method for
the 1230). Slip the sock over the free arm and ring, and follow instructions
for free-motion darning. Please do use cotton thread, and don't overdo the
darning or you will create a lump. I've worn many a darned sock (especially
gym socks which seem to pop holes after the third washing) without any
discomfort.
Who knows, maybe darned socks will become the next street fashion.
Regards,
Ray
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 16:18:13 +0500
Subject: Directional stitching/quilting
The 1630 is capable of stitching in 16 directions. As I was
pondering the difficulties of machine quilting a large log
cabin quilt, it occurred to me that this might be a good
use of the sideways motion. That is, stitch normally,
stitch to the left, stitch backwards, stitch right,
etc. and I wouldn't have to wrestle twisting the quilt
under the presserfoot to go in each new direction.
Has anyone tried this? Does the walking foot work with
the sideways stitches? I don't have the new walking
foot (my dealer is out of stock) or else I'd try this.
Monica T
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 1995 13:37:06 -0700
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 5/29/95
You wrote:
>
>Date: Sat, 3 Jun 1995 21:26:00 -0400
>Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 5/29/95
>
>
>Dear Carol ....thanks so much for responding to my post about
Bernina >University! I was beginning to think that noone would be able
to answer my
>question! I am glad that anyone can attend. It sounds great :)
> I have a 1630 and just LOVE it! I paid alot for it and I don't use
it as
>much as I should. (the Bernina is worth MORE than my car!!!)
> Next question...does anyone know when the next Bernina University
will be?
>
I am new to the club so I did not see the original posting but I am
really interested in attending as well. I heard there is something in
July in Washington, DC. Does anyone know more - like how to enroll,
etc? This is soooo exciting. I just got my 1630 on Thursday and now
my husband keeps asking when I'm going to leave the machine. I love
it. I start classes from the dealer on Monday and am really excited
about the possibilities. I am new to sewing after a 20 year break. I
used to sew alot back then but drifted away from it. Now I am back in
classes and thrilled to be creative again. Sorry to blather on.
Looking forward to lurking here.
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Date: Tue, 6 Jun 1995 21:54:44 -0500
Subject: Darning socks
June 6
Pat,
It is possible to darn socks with a 930 so I'm sure you can darn with the
newer Berninas also. My husband always puts his socks in to be darned and
it is so easy that I do darn them if they aren't too bad. Just use the
instructions in the manual and the darning hoop and foot. Set the machine
like the instructions say and darn away. Of course, I'd rather be quilting
with it, but darning the socks makes him happy.
Sue
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:49:37 -0400
Subject: bobbin insertion
I realize that the 1630 bobbin insertion is awkward compared to the previous
models but I am learning to insert it with my right hand instead of my left
and my new Nina and I are becoming better friends. Sometimes the bobbin case
does not get properly seated in the race and this is true on all Nina's. I
have made it a practice after inserting my bobbin to place the flat, fleshy
part of my thumb against the front of the bobbin case and rotate it while
pushing inwards. If the bobbin is not in correctly, the rotation will allow
it to find the right spot and by pushing inwards, it will pop into place
perfectly. Taking this momentary precaution can save you a lot of hastle.
Hope that this helps! I want everyone to love their Bernina as much as I love
mine. Have you hugged your Nina today?
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:49:30 -0400
Subject: oiling
There should not be a lot of oil in the bobbin case area of your Nina. The
1630 gets one drop of oil aprox. every 4 hours of sewing time and the other
models, one drop every 8 hours. Actual sewing time is hard to measure. You
may spend 4 hours sewing a garment, but how much time is the machine actually
run? You are pinning, ironing, checking the directions, etc. Since I sew a
great deal, my rule of thumb is to oil about once a week although your
machine may need to be cleaned of lint oftener depending on the type of work
you are doing and the materials that you are using. Train your ear to listen
for a change in the sound of your machine- when the Bernina starts to sound
"noisy" it is asking for oil. (Another sound to listen for is the popping
sound made by a dull needle as it penetrates the fabric.) I hope that this
helps. Happy stitching - Francyne.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:49:23 -0400
Subject: darning
Ninas love to darn socks! In fact that is how I practiced my free hand
techniques when learning to embroider. Drop the feed dogs and put the darning
foot (#9) on your machine. You will find a darning hoop in your accessory
box. It attaches to the free arm by placing the projection at one end into
the hole at the right of the free arm. Pinch the inner ring to remove it and
pull the sock over the free arm, then replace the inner ring to hold it
tight. Lower your presser foot and then lower the needle into the fabric (not
the hole) and draw up the bobbin thread. Wrap both top and bobbin threads
around your finger to hold them tight, and take several stitches to lock your
threads, stop with the needle in the fabric and clip the thread ends to get
them out of your way. Start stitching forward by moving the hoop away from
yourself , run the machine at a fairly rapid pace and move your hands
steadily. You will stitch forwards and then backwards moving from one side of
the hole to the other while reinforcing the fabric all the way around the
hole and filling the hole itself with stitches. When you finish forward and
backward, then stitch side to side from top to bottom. Continue in this
manner until the hole is filled. If you run the machine slowly, you will have
problems so keep the pace rapid. Check the directions in your Bernina manual
- it will also have pictures. Good luck and happy stitching!
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 09:48:49 -0400
Subject: bias binding
Atttaching bias binding can be a tricky job. I know because I have done miles
of it the hard way. The #85 foot is used for attaching prefolded bias binding
in straight lines only. It will not go around a curve. The #84/#94 attachment
is absolutely fantastic. You put a flat piece of bias into the foot and it
will automatically fold the raw edges under, fold the bias in half, and
attach it to the fabric. Curves are no problem. The downside is the cost -
the #85 foot will probably be around $50.00 whereas the preferred attachment
runs over $100.00. You really need to do a lot of bias to justify the
expense.
When doing bias without special accessories, I have found that it is much
easier to use narrow double fold binding when curves are involved. Make sure
that the bias is folded so that one side is wider than the other. The wider
side goes underneath the project. The edge stitch foot #10 should make it
easier for you to sew an even distance from the edge by running the guide
along the inside edge and stitching with your needle one position to the
right on a 5 needle position Bernina. Use a large straight pin or other
implement to keep the folded edge of the bias snuggled against the raw edge
of the project as you sew. If you are binding multiple layers (e.g. quilted
fabric) run a zigzag stitch over the raw edge of the project first to hold
all the layers together. Another alternative in stitching is to use a
decorative or wider functional stitch instead of a straight stitch. You will
be assured of catching the underneath layer of bias this way. A serpentine or
running stitch works well as does a sewn out zigzag among others. Experiment
on a scrap. If you prefer a wider bias, I like to sew it in 2 steps. First
lay the bias right sides together with the project and raw edges even. Stitch
with a straight stitch, 1/4 inch from the outside raw edge easing around
curves. Flip the bias to the wrong side, turning under the raw edge and pin
in place making sure to cover the stitching line. Now you can either hand
stitch the bias on the wrong side or machine stitch in the ditch from the
right side again using the edge stitch foot. With this method the bias does
not have to be prefolded. I hope that my explanations have been clear. It is
hard to explain things without pictures. If you have any further questions
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 17:23:46 -0400
Subject: Re: Darning Socks
I always used to darn socks on my elna. Not sure how to do on the 1080. I'm
definitely not cheap. Just seems a shame to throw away good socks because of
sm. hole. Americans are a throw away society, if I compost, recycle cans,
bottles and plastic why not darn a hole.
Kit
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Date: Wed, 07 Jun 1995 17:44:06 EDT
Subject: Good Price
You may want to try the Bernina dealer in Harrisburg, PA.
They also mail order...and their prices are LOW! It's
Discount Vacuum &Sewing Center at 1-800-569-5691.
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 22:14:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Good Prices
If they mail order they are going against Bernina rules. If they cheat that
way can they be trusted to have your best interest at
heart??????????????????????
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Date: Thu, 08 Jun 1995 09:37:52 EDT
Subject: Re: Good Prices
If Bernina has rules against mail order they are setting
themselves up for a lawsuit for restraint of trade!
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Subject: Re: Good Prices
Date: Thu, 08 Jun 95 10:48:07 -0400
>Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 22:14:27 -0400
>Subject: Re: Good Prices
>If they mail order they are going against Bernina rules. If they cheat that
>way can they be trusted to have your best interest at
>heart??????????????????????
>_____________________________________________
>All Bernina Lovers Welcome!!
I'm no lawyer, but I do know that federal law puts limits on the
restrictions that a manufacturer can place on a retailer. For
example, some years ago the practice of a manufacturer setting and
enforcing retail prices was declared illegal. (Now the manufacture
can only "suggest" a retail price and stores can do whatever they
want.) I don't know exactly where the limits lie these days, but I
wonder whether Bernina can legally enforce a "no mail order" or "no
discount" policy.
As consumers, we should be happy about laws that keep the market open
to competition. In a monopoly, there is no economic incentive for the
seller to provide service or good prices to the consumer. Because we
do have choices other than Bernina, this is not strictly a monopoly
situtation, at least when it comes to buying a machine. A Bernina
dealer must consider the nearby Viking dealer when setting prices on
machines. However, if one does own a Bernina, one probably will be
purchasing feet and other accessories. At that point there is
something close to a monopoly, since Bernina distributes only through
"authorized" dealers. The only thing a "no mail order" or a "no
discount" policy does is guarantee Bernina dealers are not competing
against each other. It is not a rule that helps us, the consumers,
obtain good service or good prices from the market place. It has
exactly the opposite effect.
I've owned my Bernina for a year now and am very happy with the
machine. However, I have become increasingly unhappy with my dealer
(the only one in at least 40-50 miles) and her pricing (definitely
higher than dealers hundreds of miles away). If there were local
competition or I had a mail order source, I would get better prices.
Because of this, I am on the verge of telling people to strongly
consider buying sewing machines *other* than Bernina if they don't
have at least three unrelated Bernina dealers within a reasonable
distance from their home. This might be a tough condition, because
Bernina seems to space franchises very far apart, if the Boston area
is representative. However that is Bernina's policy, which is the
problem here.
Ah, it feels good to finally get that off my chest!
Am I the only person who sees things this way?
Debbie
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Date: Thu, 8 Jun 95 13:56:28 MDT
Subject: Funlock007D
In answer to Cindy's inquiry about the 007D serger -- I just got
one about two months ago and I love it. Not only does it work
great, it's also (relatively) easy to thread, with a lower looper
threader. I got a great deal from my dealer here in El Paso, by
buying it together with a 1530 -- a big (no, BIG) $$$ at once,
but I ended up saving lots in the long run.
One of my quilt guild members suggested that I use a different
color thread for each needle and looper so I could see which thing
did what. That was great advice.
During my lesson on the serger, I learned how to use the looper
converter to make the serger just do a two thread stitch. It was neat,
but WHY?? what is it used for?
Debbie
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 08:31:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Good Prices
HI!
I think the only restrictions Bernina puts on their dealers is that in
order to hold a dealership one must offer free (included in the price)
lessons. If you notice at quilt shows the dealers ARE giving lessons. I
know very little about
"warehouse sales" but I can't imagine anyone
spending so much money for a machine and then not having the invaluable
lessons on how to use it or even where to go to get service if something
is not quite right. Just because a person owns an older model Bernina it
does not mean that that individual will know how to use a latter model
with more whistle and bells.
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 10:19:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Lessons/using machine
I have to share this story--I'm still shaking my head over it. I have a
friend who owns a Bernina 930. She is a very good "crafter" and
specializes in calico dolls, stuffed animals, has done some lovely
applique, so she sews just enough to accomplish these tasks. She asked
me a question the other day and I suggested zig-zagging over something.
She told me she didn't know how to zigzag. I said, "Are you kidding me?"
No, she wasn't. She thought it involved lots of adjustments. So the
next time I am at her house we are going to have a zigzagging
lesson. She'll probably think I have broken her machine! This
points up something that has always bothered me about buying certain
appliances. Lessons are tied to the dealer/supplier instead of
being available--free--from any dealer. My friend purchased her machine,
new, in a town about 125 miles from Tallahassee where her son lives and
never got her lessons. It seems so provincial that any dealer would
not honor this benefit, regardless of the small differences in
prices. I believe she could pay for her lessons given locally, but
it's not worth it to her--and she doesn't know how to use any of the fine
features of her nice machine should she want to. Another point--if
you are able to purchase a machine away from home, factor in the cost
of those lessons if you think you will need them. I would certainly
need them on the more sophisticated models.
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 12:00:26 -0400
Subject: Re: Looper converter
>> I learned how to use the looper converter to make the serger just do a two
thread stitch. It was neat, but WHY?? what is it used for?<<
There is a two-thread rolled hem which you do with the looper converter, and
this actually looks better than the 3 thread rolled hem. However, I usually
do the 3-thread anyway because it is easier just to leave it threaded that
way than to jump through hoops using the looper converter, which I never
fully understood even though I had two sets of lessons. I have a 2000DE and
make tons of rolled hems--wonderful for the edges of ruffles, hems of
3-tiered skirts, nightgowns, sleeve hems, tablecloths, napkins, you name it.
Mary M
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Date: Fri, 09 Jun 1995 11:54:27 EDT
Subject: Re: Lessons/using machine
If a person purchases a Bernina from outside their area
(mail-order for example) but wants lessons in their hometown
it can be done FREE. Here's how it works. If you purchase
a Bernina fom someone other than your hometown dealer, have
the seller give you a Bernina certificate of purchase. If
you present this certificate to your authorized local dealer
within 90 days of purchase, he will give you lessons for
free. Why? Because the selling dealer will pay him for it.
It's in the dealer agreement. If the dealer is not willing
to give you the lessons free, call Bernina. I should know
because I mail order Berninas at extremely low prices and
the question I get asked is "how about lessons?" I pay your
local dealer to give you them. Any questions, call me at
1-800-569-5691 and ask for Bob.
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 9:27:33 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: Lessons/using machine
I agree that the lessons provided with the machine (I have a 1080) are
worthwhile. There was lots of info that wasn't presented in the manual
that came with the machine.
On the other hand, a manual *does* come with the machine. Doesn't anyone
ever read them? Doesn't everyone sit down with the manual (took all of an
hour or so for the 1080) and try it all out? (OK, OK, it'd take lots
longer for a 1630...) I can't imagine not knowing how to zigzag
whether or not lessons were provided with the machine.
I've been stunned at how much time is spent, in the classes, reviewing
things described clearly in the manual and how suprised some of the people
in the class are that their machine will drop the feed-dogs or that they
can change the zig-zag width, or that they can make the needle stop down
and so forth. I'm not talking about real esoteric stuff here,
just basic machine operation.
Sue
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 09:02:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Mail-Order Berninas
Debbie wrote:
-snip-
> As consumers, we should be happy about laws that keep the market open
> to competition. In a monopoly, there is no economic incentive for the
> seller to provide service or good prices to the consumer. Because we
-snip
> I've owned my Bernina for a year now and am very happy with the
> machine. However, I have become increasingly unhappy with my dealer
> (the only one in at least 40-50 miles) and her pricing (definitely
> higher than dealers hundreds of miles away). If there were local
> competition or I had a mail order source, I would get better prices.
> Because of this, I am on the verge of telling people to strongly
> consider buying sewing machines *other* than Bernina if they don't
> have at least three unrelated Bernina dealers within a reasonable
> distance from their home. This might be a tough condition, because
> Bernina seems to space franchises very far apart, if the Boston area
> is representative. However that is Bernina's policy, which is the
> problem here.
> Am I the only person who sees things this way?
Hi, Debbie! No, you're not the only person who thinks competition
gives the *consumer better prices and better machines! Thanks for
writing. As I think I've remarked before, one of our local sewing machine
dealers (not Bernina, thankfully) actually was getting *more* than list
price for her machines, due to her extremely overbearing/threatening
manner and the fact that she was the only dealer within easy driving
distance. You should have seen her reaction when I innocently asked
what her discount was. Heck, it should have been filmed! But I live in
one of those uncomfortable places where most folks don't really earn all
that much, and would rather *appear to have money than actually have it,
including paying a lot more than they should for consumer goods. Well,
that's their (budgetary) problem, not mine!
Elaine
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 12:28:44 PST8PDT
Subject: Quick help needed model 708
Hi all,
I am no longer a subscriber to this list as I just had a baby and
can't find enough time in the day to read a lot of mail. I am in need
of help from you all now, though. I just saw a nice looking Bernina
708 for sale at a garage sale for $25. It seems to be in great shape
but I will take some material with me if I go back to get it. Does
anyone know about this machine? How old is it? Does it have any known
problems? Currently I own an _old_ Elna and an _old_ Brother that
need more work than I want to pay for. This machine (the 708) has a
moveable needle, dual speed settings, droppable feed dogs, straight
stitch and zig zag, light, only a free arm surface and an oscilating
bobbin. Help please (and quickly too ;)
Please respond to me as I don't receive the list mail.
Thanks!!
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Date: Fri, 9 Jun 1995 17:46:20 -1000 (HST)
Subject: Binder Attachmt #84
Hello.
A few days ago, someone posted information on the efficiency (although
expensive) of Binder Attachment #84.
The catalog lists 3 sizes: 20-24mm; 22-26mm; 26-30mm.
Question #1: Is this the FINISHED width or is this the UNFOLDED bias tape.
Question #2: Works great on curves AND straight line. What about
corners?
Question #3: Could the person who previously posted re: #84, please
reveal what size binder attachment she uses?
Thank you.
CiCi W
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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 06:29:02 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/8/95
I've done mail order from other Bernina dealers, rather than my own in the
past. This was a long time ago when I had small kids and couldn't get to my
dealer. They were willing to ship me the items I needed.
Roni
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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 18:55:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/9/95
Bernina manuals are terrible. They provide the owner with really no help at
all. I think if Bernina were to rewrite their manuals in user friendly
style, or even to provide a how to video for their machines then the
questions of lessons wouldn't be so important. Bernina dealers are far and
few between here, so a decent self education system for the consumer would be
of value.
Roni
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Subject: Bernina manuals
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 95 22:23:30 PDT
Roni is sooo right.......Bernina manuals are terrible. I recently bought
a new serger, not a Bernina and the video is wonderful that came with the
machine. How can we convince them how much we need more help??? We should
not have to pay extra for brochures that show us how to use the feet either.
If the dealer sells more than just Bernina's they are not interested in
having the Bernina Club usually. My first Bernina dealer was wonderful
and by having the club each month we all spent lots of money on the
demonstrated feet, fabric, etc. Sure miss not having that any more too.
--
Jean P
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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 01:41:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/9/95
>. just saw a nice looking Bernina
.>708 for sale at a garage sale for $25. It seems to be in great >shape
>but I will take some material with me if I go back to get it. D>oes
>anyone know about this machine? How old is it?
Heidi, how can you loose with $25? I have a 740 and I believe it is about 30
years old and it works GREAT! I think the price a dealer said they would give
me for a trade in was $75.
I would ask how it has been cared for and do a little sewing on it to make
sure it at least works.
Good luck,,
Diane, with a 1090 and a 740, make me an offer!, Pacesetter Embroidery
machine and a Bernette 335 serger, life is good!!
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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 12:10:24 -0400
Subject: #84 binder foot
Hi CiCi! I am the person who wrote about the bias binders. The size of the
foot refers to the unfolded width of bias. The range from the narrowest to
the widest among all three feet goes from 20mm which is slightly wider than
3/4 inch to 30 mm which is slightly wider than 1 1/8 inch. I use the middle
size (22-26 m.m.). I cut my bias 7/8 to 1 inch wide. Seven/ eighths inch is
the same width as commercial single fold bias tape which is unfolded. If by
corners, you are referring to right-angle bends; no, the attachment does not
turn a corner. If you change the right-angle to a tight curve, you can
slowly pivot around the corner. I hope that I have answered your questions.
This attachment is explained in a Footworks Video, a Footsteps publication
vol 3 # 3, and also p. 63 of the Bernina Advanced Guide Workbook. Happy
stitching -Francyne.
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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 12:41:25 -0400
Subject: machine quilting
I have started machine quilting a quilt with cotton thread on top and SULKY
rayon in the bobbin. I've done this before but different machine and the
other way around.
No matter what the tension setting bobbin thread is pulled up til it is
visible. I happened to be at my point-of-purchase (that's where you buy your
machine because it's convenient never *expecting* a lot of support :-) )
yesterday and asked about this. He told me to check my bobbin case's
adjustment, it was probably loose. When I got home, I thought, before I
screw around with this, better check with equal thread on the bottom.
Perfect.
So, I am willing to accept this as an "effect" because it does look nice on a
background with little dots but in the future, do you recommend having a
spare bobbin case for messing with tension in situations like this?
============bye for now==============
Mary Beth G
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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 22:45:44 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/10/95
I am with Roni. The manuals stink.. They do not explain anything very
clearly. I have misplaced my manual, and I don't want to pay for a new one.
It did not help. I am paying to have lessons in August for my 1530, and plus
two lovely gals has sent me a few directions, Hi Brenda and Jackie. The
internet is the best! Thank you for this little bulletin. Barb
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Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 07:02:14 -0400
Subject: Re: Machine quilting
Rose,
Please let me know which machine you are sewing on. This will enable me
to give you some suggestions, especially since some Bernina's are rotary
hooks (1000,1001,1630) and others are oscillating. And I definitely would
not change the tension on my regular bobbin case on any of the Bernina,
rotary or oscillating.
Arlene
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Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 13:04:08 +0500
Subject: Re: Good Price
I wanted to ask the person who bought her machine from Hayes in Willmington
if she was satisfied with their service. I have not been totally happy, with the
feeling that they do a quick job and aren't very willing to tell you exactly what
they have done to your macine.
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Date: Mon, 12 Jun 1995 19:18:27 -0400
Subject: Re: Machine quilting
Hi Mary Beth,
Just read your note and decided to try answer your problem.
I am a real advocate of knowing how to change your bobbin tension, just for
such reasons. Every different fiber type and thread weight can change the way
the thread goes through the bobbin clip where the tension is regulated. Nylon
can have a much dfifferent tension set up than your regular thread. If you
have my new quilting book, or Mastering Machine Applque (pg 30) there are
precise instuctions on how to learn about bobbin tension and its relationship
to the top. I don't use a separate bobbin case, as the adjustments are minor.
Read through the instructions, and I think you will figure out how to solve
your problem. The thread is telling you what is going on. If there are bobbin
bubbles on the top, the top tension is too tight or the bobbin is too loose
for that thread combination. Therefore, start by loosening the top. If you
start to see top thread on the back, you have loosened the top too much. Now
you know that you need to tighten the top a little at a time. This is a fine
balancing act between the two, but perfect stitches can be obtained easily if
you understand these principles. Good luck.
Harriet H
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Date: Mon, 12 Jun 95 19:28:15 -0600
Subject: Looper converter
I use the looper converter to do decorative 2-thread flatlocking. It
makes a much flatter seam (however, I only use it decoratively - never
on a "real" seam), and works beautifully with heavy decorative
threads. Hmmm, I seem to notice a trend in my wording - decorative
:-).
Happy serging!
Kari
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Date: Mon, 12 Jun 95 05:51:49 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Manuals
Does anyone from Bernina of America read this? I hope so. Your video that
accompanied the 1630 stank! It was just an advertising tool. Even though
we get classroom instruction as part of the package, it would be helpful if
you included a good instructional video with your machines. It surely
wouldn't cost any extra to produce it than that elaborate piece of junk you
included with the 1630. It was beautiful, but not at all helpful. Were
you trying to sell the 1630 to someone who already bought it? The video
that came with my Babylock Eclipse serger was extremely helpful. Think
about it!
Ruth B
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 08:18:31 EST5DST
Subject: presser foot tension
I recently bought the Bernina 1001. Is there a way to
increase/decrease the presser foot tension? With the old machine I
had I could press down or release a post on the top of the machine
over the needle area to change how tightly the presser foot rested on
the material. As far as I can tell, that post on this Bernina is
only for wrapping the thread around when you wind a bobbin. I have
had the problem of the top fabric being pushed ahead of the presser
foot when sewing two pieces together. These pieces were 100% cotton
that I was strip piecing together.
Linda P
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Subject: Hayes, Wilmington
Esther--I bought my Bernina from Hayes about two months ago, so that I
haven't had it serviced yet! But I took my 25 year old Singer into them a
few times and didn't have the problems you did. Perhaps this is because i
had it serviced in Clifton Heights which is much closer to where I live, so
that I may have talked to different serviceing people (I spoke to "Mr. Hayes"
and I assume that's the person who both owns the stores and did the work).
I've heard very mixed things about Hayes, so I think it may be personal.
However, before I bought the machine, I posted a question on Quiltnet about
Hayes and had two or three responses, all favorable.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 18:13:47 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina VIDEO
In a message dated 95-06-13 08:03:15 EDT, you write:
>Does anyone from Bernina of America read this? I hope so. Your
>video that
>accompanied the 1630 stank! It was just an advertising tool. Even
>though
>we get classroom instruction as part of the package, it would be
>helpful if
>you included a good instructional video with your machines. It
>surely
>wouldn't cost any extra to produce it than that elaborate piece of
>junk you
>included with the 1630. It was beautiful, but not at all helpful.
>=================================================
I also hope you think about the above. This was my sentiments exactly. I
got a better instructional video with my Juki surger. As far as I was
concerned your video was worse then BAD, it was useless.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 20:31:40 -0600
Subject: needle up/down
Maybe I'm missing something on my faithful 930 (I'm one of those who
bought used and never took lessons!) Is there a way to change the
needle up position to a needle down? And is there a way to change the
presser foot tension? Since neither of these were addressed in the
manual I made the assumption that neither is available - hopefully
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 00:45:12 -0400
Subject: Re:Machine Quilting
Thanks Harriet and everyone -- what a wonderful thing to get advice on life's
quilting problems -- almost while you're having them.
I'm ahead of you Harriet -- the book is sitting right along side my sewing
area. I do usually have it out while machine quilting, and even though I've
been doing this for quite a few years, I thumb through it before starting.
My quilting buddy always reminds me that doing things by machine doesn't
make them brilliantly easy! :-)
I guess I was startled when I got the top tension down to 2 before I got a
result. On my old machine I would not have gotten distinct stitches.
THe other thing that has occurred to me is I can try the little eye in the
bobbin case and see if that helps since the problem seems to be thread
related.
While pondering all this, I took my own advice, often dispensed of doing a
little practice project to get going and get the feel of a new technique only
this time I'm getting the feel of my machine!
Mary Beth
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 07:47:37 +0500
Subject: Re: Bernina Video
I sure will ditto the above - pure advertisment
What a shame and sure not up to what I expected
from Bernina
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 08:25:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Service
Dear Bernina Fans on the East Coast, namely Maryland!
I live in Silver Spring, MD and have a different problem (although not as
troublesome as some of the midwestern prople)....there are so many
Bernina dealers in my area that I do not know where to go to get my
machine cleaned!!! I want someone who will treat my 1230 with the love
and attention I give it...not an assembly line approach. Has anyone had
a cleaning lately by a mechanic that will upgrade the parts that Bernina
recommends should be done (no extra cost) without being asked? That is
what is supposed to happen and should be happening when people take in
their machines. I would appreciate good and bad stories and I realize
that I will have to be responsible for making the final decision. I am
going on vacation June 15th at noon so if you want a reply, please write
before then.
Happy Sewing....Jacque
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 08:28:00 MST
Subject: RE: Needle Up/Down
I'm not familiar with the 930 but on all the other Bernina machines I
have seen, you can adjust the post that you wrap the thread around to
wind the bobbin....on my 1031 it is on the left hand side (top of machine)...
you use the little screwdriver in your accessories box. Took me a while
to figure it out but since I did, no more scooting of fabrics...
Sandra
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:28:27 -0400
Subject: Complaints
I don't think anyone from Bernina of America is on this list. I would suggest
that people who are annoyed about the video write to Bernina directly voicing
their complaint. I agree that the video appears to be a marketing tool.
Although I did watch it and my husband saw some of it and was impressed with
all the capabilities of the machine. As we have discussed here before, it
looks like we will have to rely on outside sources for information on our
Berninas. I would love it if Jackie Dodson wrote a book on the 1630.
Also, I want to stress again, how great classes can be if you have a good
dealer. You can still probably take classes if you bought your machine from
an outside source used, and talk to a dealer. I have been sewing for 30 years
and was really impressed with how many tips I picked up during the class. I
have a serger, which I still am not friends with, I asked Rick, of
Libertyville Sewing Center in IL, what would be in the beginning serger
class, taught by his wife, LInda. Rick said "Oh you know, how to cut out a t
shirt, how to put on ribbing, simple stuff like that". But I know better, I
know that Linda really knows her stuff, and I will learn a lot. One thing
just occurred to me, the staff at that dealer all wear clothes they have sewn
themselves. Maybe we should pay attention to that when evaluating dealers, a
skillful sewer makes a better dealer. (At least that is my opinion.)
I felt like rambling, the list has been short lately, so I figured no one
would mind.
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 15:15:23 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/13/95
I agree about the video, it was a waste. They should re-write the manual and
re -film the video with real people doing the basic things on the machine,
then go on to the advanced techniques. Maybe someone like Harriet Hargraves,
or Georgia Bonesteel, who know how to teach? They would be great.
Roni
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Subject: Re: Needle Up/Down
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 15:29:13 PDT
I too used to have a 930, there were two 930 models. The first did not have
the needle up/down option. Soon they added it to the newer 930's. Not fare.
I had mine a few months into 1983 when this happened and it made me very
unhappy. If you can not step on the heel of our foot petal and have the needle
change position, your 930 does not have it. :-( And I know just how you feel.
That is why I recently converted to the 1530. I did not care for the
performance of the 1630 and it could not hook up to a MAC either.
--
Jean P
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 20:14:00 -0400
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/13/95
Betty,
I also have a 930 (and a 1005) that I recently bought used. Tapping on the
bottom of the foot pedal will leave the needle in the down position.
However, I understand that not all 930s have this ability. Hope this
helps!!! :)
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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 23:36:23 +0600
Subject: Bernina
Hi Sue! This is a trial -- I'm not sure if I have your correct email
address. We'll soon see! I would like to re-subscribe to the Bernina
listserv. BECAUSE -- TODAY my DDDDDH bought me my first Bernina - A Bernina
1630! I am so excited I cannot wait until Friday when it gets delivered to
the store -- they will call for me to come and get it. And hopefully sit
down with me and show me how to use it. I've been working on an old
Kenmore, and now I am ready to fly!!
need to send something to the listserv address?
Thanks! and wish me luck!! This is SO exciting!!!
Robin D
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 04:11:09 -0700
Subject: Thanks, Harriet
Hi everyone!
I had to post a note this morning. I used my walking foot for the
first time yesterday since I had it modified. WOW---what a
difference!!!! Thanks, Harriet! If any of you haven't had this done
yet, I suggest you run, not walk, to the nearest post office.
Machine quilting is now so easy that I may never hand quilt. Besides,
any reason to play with the Bernina........
Jane
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 07:39:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Service
I have been very pleased with the service I got from Francis at MD Sew &Vac.
I always check to make sure he will be able to work on my machine when I
bring it in.
Doesn't G Street service Berninas?
Carol
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 07:41:21 -0400
Subject: Re: video
I believe that the video was made by Europeans to their way of thinking.
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Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/14/95
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 08:08:14 -0500 (CDT)
This is a machine quilting question. I have tried a few projects,
none of them very successful. I just got the walking foot for my 1630
though and want to try again. The question I have is about quilting on
the diagonal. I did that on my previous pieces and reached the tenta-
tive conclusion that this is best left for experts and that it greatly
increases the likelihood of puckers on the back side. I checked HH's
book to see if there was any advice about this. While she does recom-
mend the vertical &horiz stabilizing lines, she doesn't say anything
about diagonal. The quilt I'm going to do would look better with
diagonals, but if diag. truly does mean puckers, I'll find another
design. Do any more experienced machine quilters have an opinion on
this? I'd appreciate the advice. (&yes, the video does stink)
Lynn
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 09:18:53 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/14/95
RE: the manual
I agree that the manual leaves a GREAT deal to be desired.
However, I also understand that there is a book available from
the Bernina dealer. Is anyone aware of it? Has anyone used it?
Is it any good?
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 09:38:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Thanks, Harriet
I don't own a Bernina YET. But I am definitely looking. Could someone
explain to me about the adjustment that "Harriet" apparently suggested for
the walking foot. Are you talking about the new walking foot that costs
$75 or an older version and what kind of adjustment was made?
Thanks, Sarita
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 11:39:57 -0400
Subject: Test post: Bernina Feet project
Bernina Presser Foot Project
-------------------------------------------------
The following is a draft of a project I am currently developing. You are
very much
encouraged to contribute feedback. The number one goal of this endeavour is
to provide
valuable resources to Bernina machine users.
Please feel free to pass this draft to friends and colleagues.
The more input I receive from Bernina users the better I can shape the proposal.
---------------------------------------------
Table of Contents
Introduction (Summary)
Objectives
Benefits derived from the product
Format
Book contents
Video contents
Marketing ideas
Feedback is Welcome!
---------------------------------------------
Introduction (Summary)
Bernina machine users learn early of the large number of presser feet
available for NINA's. While that means it tends to be expensive for us to
collect all the nifty sewing aids, it does help us in our sewing to have
the right foot available. However, if you talk to seamsters, dealers,
instructors you soon find out that there is a crying need for a
'consolidated' source of information. Currently, you have to go to about
half a dozen sources to get around most of the foot info (the information
printed on the little leaflets accompanying each foot is, to put it
mildly, less than overwhelming...). In addition, many of the dealers
don't carry foot related information sources or don't hold them in stock
consistently. I am currently working on a project draft for a book (or
series of books; hopefully companion videos as well) that would give
detailed info on what each foot is designed for, how it works (what the
design of the foot does) and how to use the foot so that it works for
you. In addition, I'd like to have included as many 'alternate' uses for
the feet as possible. Many feet are used for other purposes than the
one(s) printed on their accompanying documentation. The companion videos
would provide actual demonstrations of the uses for each foot, including
alternate uses. Finally, the book(s) would be indexed both by foot and by
application, so that the information could be accessed from both
perspectives.
---------------------------------------------
Objectives
The main objectives of this project are:
* to provide comprehensive information on all Bernina feet available
* to consolidate such information in one source, for easy accessibility
enable Bernina users to take full advantage of the wide variety of
presser feet
available by giving them the information they need to understand how
the feet
work and how to use them
* give users a reference tool that will allow them to find out what foot (or
feet) are
best suited for any specific use or technique they have in mind
---------------------------------------------
Benefits derived from the product:
for seamsters...
being able to USE all these feet is the main benefit I have in mind! Users
could find out the HOW-TO AND the WHY-IT-WORKS for the feet they already
own. They could also find out about new feet that may be better suited
for any particular task they undertake. We all enjoy having the right
foot for the job but we also often have difficulty finding out what that
right foot would be (choosing the right hemmer is a good example)
for dealers...
a consolidated source of foot information could only help the dealers
(provided it is comprehensive enough). Such a reference could also be
used as a source of ideas for classes and Bernina Club events. It would
also allow the dealers to better satisfy the needs of customers who live
a distance away and who can only visit their dealership infrequently.
Such 'remote' users have a greater need for (foot) information that they
could use at home (especially video material)
for Bernina of America...
it would allow the company to better support their claim/policy on
presser feet, i.e. the right foot for the task at hand. While Bernina
already has demonstrated leadership in developing presser feet adapted to
different sewing tasks, it is clear from the users' perspective that the
company needs to deliver more on that policy by enabling the seamsters to
take advantage of all these nifty feet. It seams like the company would
sell more feet once the users had the reference material needed to put
them to successful use
---------------------------------------------
Format
This section gives an overview of how the presser foot information would
be presented. The next two sections go in more detail over the contents
of the reference components.
The material included in the 'Presser Foot Reference' would be predented
in two ways (media): book(s) and video(s).
The 'book' ( which I currently envision as 3-hole punch sheets in a ring
binder for flexibility) would be a hybrid of the current foot information
sources, including a description of the feet, drawings and/or pictures of
the feet with pointers to the features on each foot that make it work.
The book(s) would also discuss the main sewing application(s) for which
each foot is designed, as well as alternate applications. The information
in the book(s) would be indexed in (at least) three ways: by foot number,
foot name and by sewing application. So a #63 hemmer would be listed both
under #63, Narrow Hemmer and Hemming. The book information would likely
be split into more than one module (more on that in the next section)
The video(s) would give a 'live' description of the foot, with someone
actually showing on each foot what makes it work. They would refer to the
book contents (by page) to allow the user to keep track and make notes in
the book if necessary. There would of course be demonstrations of the
different feet, not only for the 'main' application(s) but also for
alternate uses. There would have to be several videos to cover all the
feet. The videos would be 'matched' to their book counterparts.
******* How many books and videos? ********
I believe that having one ring binder holding all of the foot info would
be the ultimate reference. However, not everyone may be interested in
having all of the feet included. Therefore, I propose that a modular
approach be followed. This would include the following:
a ring binder capable of holding the entire collection of foot info (This
would come with a global index of all the feet, even if the customer
doesn't buy all the 'inserts) Modules or sections for different subsets
of presser feet, including:
1. The BASIC SET (starter set) that comes with most machines (feet #0-9);
this would be included with the ring binder. (actually, I think that the
ring binder with starter set should be included with EVERY Bernina
machine sold)
2. Other sections that would cover 'groups' of feet, like embellishment /
embroidery, utility (hemmers, etc)
3. A special section for 1630 specific feet. I would make the 1630 feet a
separate section, since most Bernina users can't use them. This
arrangement would also make it easier for 1630 owners to find the
information on these feet, without having to browse through the rest of
the book.
Sections could be added to the binder over time or the whole thing could
be sold 'bundled' into one complete reference (hopefully at an
'agressive' price). Pagination would be modular (e.g. page 1-1, 2-15,
etc) to accomodate growth in the book without having to republish the
index)
The VIDEOs would follow a similar organization. One video for the BASIC
SET (feet #0-9) which, btw, should have been included with every new
machine sold for a while now... Other titles would cover the same
categories as for the book modules (utility, embellishment, 1630, etc.)
---------------------------------------------
Book contents
*** Table of contents
*** ntroduction: Bernina's policy towards presser feet. How to find the
information in the book(s).
*** Summary table of all current Bernina presser feet: the table would
include, for each foot, columns for the following (likely in landscape
orientation):
Foot Number (with equivalent in 'older' foot series)
Foot name
Front view (photo or drawing) of the foot as we see it when we sew)
Side view
Bottom (sole) view
'Main' application for the foot
Alternate uses for the foot
Pages numbers in the book where the foot is referred to (visual
indexing)
*** Body of the Book(s): the main section would include for each foot the
following information:
* accurate description (step-by-step) of the 'main' use(s) for the foot
(using drawings or pictures to illustrate techniques)
* drawings of the foot (top, side bottom views as required) with pointers to
features that make the foot work
* integration of the above information in explaining the 'proper' procedure
to follow in using the foot to ensure success, referring to the 'feature
pointers'
NOTES: a 2 column format could be use to have the 'worded' descriptions of
features and techniques on the left and the visual aides on the right
Repeat the above layout for 'alternate uses for the foot. (the level of
detail could be lessened if a similar foot already has a detailed
description of the technique to illustrate). When more than one foot is
adequate for a particular use, teh pros and cons of each foot should be
discusses (or mentioned)
*** Appendix A: translation table (to current foot equivalent) for older feet
*** Index by Foot Number
*** Index by Foot Name
*** Index by Sewing Application
---------------------------------------------
Video contents
The videos would go something like...
*** Introduction: which feet are covered on the tape
*** Body of the session: for each foot, the video would cover:
* How the foot works: explanation while showing on the foot the
feature(s) that make it work
* How to use the foot: live demonstration at the machine, with tips,
pointers for success and mistakes to avoid (referring to the 'why the
foot works' information when appropriate)
Throughout the entire video, periodic overlays on the screen would
indicate which foot is being discussed, what technique is being applied
as well as where in the book the corresponding information is covered,
allowing the viewer to annotate if wanted.
NOTES: a two person format may be useful, allowing one person to 'ask the
questions' (representing the user's perspective) and one person
'obliging' and doing the demo. Whenever more than one foot are adequate
for a particular task, they could be shown side by side and the pros and
cons of each one could be discussed. The video format allows for easier
and IMHO more effective comparisons.
---------------------------------------------
Marketing Ideas
Here is where I am seeking a balance between seamsters' interests and
attractiveness to Bernina of America. Frankly, this project can only
'happen' if the company thinks they have an interest also :)
As a seamster, I believe the company should bundle the binder, including
the starter set with every new machine they sell (for the 1630, this
would also include the section on 1630 specific feet), accompanied by the
corresponding video(s) . If the book and video is any good, the other
sections should sell themselves, one would assume. For people who already
have a Bernina, and who should have had a more elaborate reference
included with their machine (that's most of us, I believe...), Bernina
should offer the whole book (with or without the 1630 section) at an
affordable price. Videos should also be bundled here at an attractive
price (not everyone has a VCR but still the company should make it
attractive to get both book and video).
---------------------------------------------
Feedback is Welcome!
I am currently gathering information and input on the project, so that I
can present it to Bernina of America in a form that will be both useful
to seamsters and attractive to the company.
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 10:25:08 EDT
Subject: Bernina Manuals
Been reading the posts about the poor Bernina manuals with
interest. I am a Bernina dealer in PA and have been
surprised to learn that some Bernina dealers don't know of
many of the products the company offers. Are you aware that
Bernina has Advanced Guide Workbooks? These 3-ring binders
go beyong the manual and go into much more detail about the
machine's capabilities. For #1630 owner's, there is the
1630 library. A new section to this library will come out
every month up until December.
Good videos are needed for the machines, but I know of no
plans by Bernina to start. I was the dealer who posted the
info about buying a machine out-of-town and taking local
lessons and the selling dealer would pay the local dealer to
give the lessons. It amazes me that some dealers keep
product and service info from their customers. My phone
number is 1-800-569-5691. This isn't a shameless promotion.
If dealers aren't offering what they should be to Bernina
owners, I will. We offer machines &accessories at DISCOUNT
prices.
One more interesting note. Bernina's patent on the
knee lift has run out. New Home (soon to be renamed Janome)
has already put it on the new Memory Craft 9000. I hope no
one minds a dealer's perspective on what's going on with
Bernina.
Thanks,
Bob
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Subject: 1530 Instructions
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 95 10:25:05 PDT
I also would be interested in having additional instructions for the 1530
other than the book that came with the machine. I do have the Advanced
Manual and the Supplement #1.
Does anyone know if there have been any other supplements since this, as
they do not cover the 1530 and needle positions are very different. From
the titles of her books I can not tell if Mary Lou Nall covered this model
and her books are not available for me to see in my area.
I also have Know Your Bernina, but this actually applied to my 930.
I am afraid that future publications will be focused on the 1630, leaving
1530 owners in the lurch. The two dealers in my area are so new to
Bernina's that they look at me blankly when asked any of the above.
Thanks to anyone how has any hints. :0}
--
Jean P
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 16:59:20 -0400
Subject: 1630 memory
I am planning to use some of the multi directional designs on tee shirts and
I have 2 nice designs programed. Only trouble is that I accidently inserted
pattern subdivisions. Dumb question, but I sure can't figure out how to get
rid of them. I can start over or I can do each design in sections but I want
to get rid of those subdivisions!!!!!!!
Anyone know how?
Carol
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 19:31:02 MST
Subject: Confusion might reign supreme.....
The other day I submitted a post describing adjusting the post (that you
wrap the thread around for bobbin winding) to increase/decrease pressure
on the presser foot...on my machine (the 1031, you tap the FOOT PEDAL
with your heel to get the NEEDLE DOWN...not as convenient as pushing a
button but it works....I do apologize for any confusion that I might
have caused because I neglected to change the subject line....now
instead of being at home sewing...I am now going to work tonight...gotta
get those files off my desk...hope you are all having great evenings.
Sandra
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 22:40:56 -0400
Subject: Re: Needle Up/Down
The first 930's that came out on the market did not have the needle
up/down feature. Abou 6 months or so after that they revamped the
930 and the foot control will allow you to stop with the needle up or
down. You'll have to send in your model number I imagine to Bernina to find
out if yours was one of the first or later ones made.
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 00:27:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Bernina Digest 6/14/95
> though and want to try again. The question I have is about quilting on
> the diagonal. I did that on my previous pieces and reached the tenta-
> tive conclusion that this is best left for experts and that it greatly
> increases the likelihood of puckers on the back side. I checked HH's
Lynn: I have been machine quilting for a while and have never had problems
quilting on the diagonal when using a walking foot. I just quilted a Trip
Around the World completely on the diagonal and not a single pucker. Make up
a lil sample and use the walking foot. Make sure quilt is basted well, too.
Perhaps you had too much looseness in the backing...Good Luck, and let us
know if it goes well!
Robin
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 09:39:27 -0400
Subject: Silvains book and video
Silvain I wish you luck. I enjoyed reading your outline. Perhaps it is
because I am from the midwest, but I would find it annoying to be called a
"seamster" and my machine referred to as a NINA.
Also, I disagreed with your proposal to package your binder with all
machines. The reason Berninas don't come with all the feet is so we don't
have to pay for all of them with our machines and we can pick which ones we
like. If your program succeeded we would all pay for everything packed in the
box. This is probably why the advanced guide is not included in the box with
every machine.
I would also suggest to you that you contact Chilton or That Patchwork Place
with your ideas. Chilton publishes hundreds of sewing books, and they are
always looking for good authors. Chilton books are carried in most book
stores (they also do the auto repair guides).
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 95 09:10:24 EDT
Subject: Re: Bernina Feet Project (Long)
Oooohhhh, sounds real neet Sylvain ! I ended up skimming most of it for
time's sake, but I like it real well. My suggestion (after this quick
read): when you mentioned landscape format and 2 column (text / graphic)
I got a picture in my mind of a binder jointed to bend into a tent so that
when I'm working with a specific foot I can flip to that page, open the
binder to _stand up_ for easy visibility while I sew. (Does anyone else
see this??? -- I'm really tired this a.m. and know that I'm not expressing
myself very well).
Of course, on the small table that I use to hold both my serger &my
sewing machine I'd have a hard time finding room to set this lovely binder...
(guess I need a bigger/better sewing table ;) ).
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Date: 16 Jun 95 12:57:24 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 6/15/95
>> Dorothy RE: the manual <<
I got the Advanced Guide Workbook and both of the supplements. They were
written for the 1230 and aren't helpful for the 1630. They were a special
order and I'm stuck with them. A very large waste of money.
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Date: 16 Jun 95 12:57:17 EDT
Subject: Bernina Digest 6/15/95
>> Lynn (in Nebraska) <<
Lynn, The puckers on the back are usually caused but not stretching the
backing before making the quilt sandwich and/or not basting close enough. I
have seen this a lot in my classes. What method of basting do you use?
E-mail from: Laura M
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 15:35:36 -0400
Subject: Presser foot project draft: contact info
Greetings,
First, I'd like to thank the early birds who already have sent in feed back.
If you want to pass it along, the draft is available:
1. on the WEB, at http://Borealis2.cit.cornell.edu/Sylvain/Presser_Foot.html
upon request.
Sylvain
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 1995 23:09:59 -0400
Subject: Re: BErnina Digest 6/15/95
In a message dated 95-06-16 16:26:22 EDT, you write:
> I got the Advanced Guide Workbook and both of the supplements. They
>were
>written for the 1230 and aren't helpful for the 1630. They were a
>special
>order and I'm stuck with them. A very large waste of money.
==================================================
I just got the AGW and supplements. I thought they were updated and included
help for all the Bernina's, including the 1630, how is that NOT true? I also
thought everything was interchangeable between machines. What's missing to
be helpful for the 1630, I am really a novice here and to sewing. Could you
please be more specific. It was a large amount of money.... I might be able
to get my money back, if I can prove it isn't helpful for my 1630 and was
only written for the 1230, mine wasn't a special order.
Thanks,
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 00:28:21 -0400
Subject: Janome's knee lift....
In the 6/15/95 digest, Bob Vasile wrote about the knee lift patent expiring
and the New Home machine with a knee lift.
I saw a demo of the "quilting" part of the Janome/NewHome 9000 and thought it
was pretty darn silly. These people obviously want the quilting market and
have not done their homework. The machine has several basic quilting blocks
in memory that it will "resize". (The person who was demo'ing took the
calculations which were in 32's of an inch and rounded off to the nearest
quarter inch, very strange.) Then it "remembers" the length of the seam
involved so it STOPS when it comes to the end of the seam. Excuse me haven't
these people heard of speed techniques like chain piecing??? It also had
several quilting designs which were not re-sizeable. I noticed the knee lift
and it didn't look as correct in position as Bernina's. Of course, after I
had listened (very politely I might add, with NO LOL) I said, well honestly I
am a new Bernina owner so I'm not really in the market for a new machine (I
had not asked for this demo by the by). I got dumped on big time by this
former Bernina dealer -- gave bad mouthing a whole new meaning for me.
I understood at the time that they had their dealership taken away by Bernina
due to service problems. Is that very common?
Mary Beth G
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 95 09:20:33 -0500
Subject: Classes, Manuals, &a Bit Administrative
Hi Everyone,
I just finished my 'nina classes &they were great. I've had the machine since
November, but the classes didn't run till last week. Please, if you buy a
Bernina, do try &take the classes. While I'm not a beginner, I couldn't
believe how many little things I picked up in the class (Like what that thing on
the right hand side of the machine is, Hey, it didn't look like a needle
threader to me). Anyway, if you're going to spend that much money on a
machine, makes sense to learn how to take advantage of it.
Now, I had never heard of the Advanced Guide till I took my classes. So, of
course, I had to get it. For those of you who don't know what it is, it's the
manuals that you wished you had gotten with your machine. As my dealer calls
it, the "Bernina Bible". I really have to differ with the people who said it
was a waste of money. I've found it to be a great resource. I'm all fired up
on the ideas I've gotten from it. It is for all Berninas, but was written
before the later models (1530 &1630) came out, so later machine owners will
have to do a bit of translating. That's why the 2 suppliments were added. In
one of the suppliments is a chart that gives you the corresponding stitch for
the later models. Anyway, this guide gives directions for every technique that
can be done with the 'nina &the various feet. I saw things in there that I
never knew you could do on a sewing machine. Guess the best thing I could tell
someone was to see if you could look thru one first to see if it's something for
you. My dealer has them in stock, so I didn't have to special order.
For the 1630 owners, Bernina has also come out with a library. Basically, it's
a notebook with 5/6 different sections, each devoted to a different aspect of
the 1630. The idea is to keep issuing new inserts every so often. I bought
issue #1 and found that it was okay. My dealer is doing workshops on each of
the additions as they come out, so I signed up for one on issue #2 in July 
in August. I'll let you know how that goes. I also picked up the
sports/cartoon key and the new quilting key. The sports key is okay, but I like
the cartoon characters better. The quilting key has some interesting designs
that are shown in various combinations on the handout that came with the key.
It's cute, but I'm holding my final judgement till I try it out (hopefully
sometime this week.)
As far as the manual it self goes, it ain't great, but I personally didn't think
it was trhat bad. Of course I a) have to deal w/ computer manuals everyday that
are MUCH worse, &b) also have knitting machines so I'm use to manuals like
Berninas (Hey, at least this one is in English ¬ Japanese :) ) The video
did leave alot to be desired, but I think it was more for inspiration than
actual instruction. But again, I've been using European knitting machine
manuals &videos for the last 10 years. I think that the person who produces a
series of instructional videos for the 'nina could make a fortune. (Too bad I'm
camera shy )
One quick thing I got in the class, 1630 owners, if you're not sure if your
machine has the upgraded board, go to the stitch designer and look in the lower
right hand corner of the screen. If you see #27 in the second box from the
right, you've got an upgraded board. The first 1630 to come out would only make
designs that could be sewn 9mm wide, the late boards let stitches be wider, up
to 40 something. Also, when doing the sideways motifs, you really have to keep
your fabric absolutely straight on the horizontal &vertical. If you just let
the machine go do it's thing, the pattern won't line up (NOW I know )
Okay, now the administrative part. Some people have been asking about archives.
Yes, I am very far behind on getting them ready. But, I am planning on making
them available on my Web site AND making them searchable. I will post the URL
whan I get them up. I will also have them ready for e-mailing soon too.
Lastly, there are now over 350 people on this list (Wow, when I started this I
never knew that there were that many 'nina lovers out there) and I am still
running the list manually. DH &I are testing some software programs that would
do some automation of the list, but till then, one really big thing you could do
to help me is to tell me if you are on the regular list or the digest list when
you e-mail about changes you wish to make. When there were 40 people on the
list, I could remember who was digest &who wasn't but know with 125+ digest and
225+ regular, I spend alot of time searching through the lists for names only to
realize that I'm in the wrong list. Anyway, I'd really appreciate the help &I
thank all of you in advance.
Well, this post has certainly gone on longer than I thought it would. I hope
everyone has been enjoying the list as much as I have. I can't tell you how
much I've learned. Can't wait for my workshops (&since I don't plan on
teaching in the Fall, I can start to do the Bernina Club , I can't wait)
Sue T
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 11:01:55 -0400
Subject: Jenome 9000
I'm interested in finding out more about the Jenome 9000, and how it
compares to the 1630.
Does the 9000 hook up the computer? What type of software does it use?
Caroline
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 11:05:35 -0400
Subject: Clarifications on the presser foot draft
Just to clarify what may not have been clear to everyone...
>Also, I disagreed with your proposal to package your binder with all
>machines. The reason Berninas don't come with all the feet is so we don't
>have to pay for all of them with our machines and we can pick which ones we
>like.
The FORMAT section outlined that the BASIC set (feet 0-9) ought to be
bundled with new machines, since everyone gets that set of feet. For other
groups of feet, the inserts could be optional. That modular approach is
different from the Advanced Guide Workbook on purpose (for the very reason
you mention) That would provide reference material on what already comes
with the machines without burdening the buyer with unwanted material.
AS for 1630 owners, if the main index table includes the 1630 feet in the
startup binder, that would give them a starting point to find more about
what feet are available for that model. I would still encourage Bernina to
offer the 1630 "module" at an attractive price to make it 'easier' to
acquire it for users.
>
>I would also suggest to you that you contact Chilton or That Patchwork Place
>with your ideas. Chilton publishes hundreds of sewing books, and they are
>always looking for good authors. Chilton books are carried in most book
>stores (they also do the auto repair guides).
Thanks for a good suggestion! will do :)
>I got a picture in my mind of a binder jointed to bend into a tent so that
>when I'm working with a specific foot I can flip to that page, open the
>binder to _stand up_ for easy visibility while I sew. (Does anyone else
>see this??? --
Bernina did this with their Bernette (serger) guide book. I too like that
'assembly' since it allows me to keep the book in sight while I'm trying out
a technique. I'll keep that in mind :)
Sylvain
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 13:32:33 -0400
Subject: Re: Service
>Doesn't G Street service Berninas?
Yes they do service Berninas.... I stopped in 2 weeks ago and wanted to
leave my machine for a tune up.... I was told they aren't taking any
machines for service until the end of June... their service person has all
she can do getting ready for the sale and then reconditioning trade-ins!
Seems that everytime I can part with my machine... G Street is too busy. I
tried at Christmas time and they weren't taking machines until the middle
of January! Even then the sales person told me that it would be 2 weeks
minimum before I could expect it back!
Sure wish there was quick, reliable service..... without driving an hour.
I tried a shop in Hagerstown...earlier this spring and they were too busy.
The dealership where I bought my Bernina is no longer in business. The
other dealers are not in any hurry to service mine.
Thanks goodness Berninas are so sturdy!
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Date: Sat, 17 Jun 1995 14:48:41 -0400
Subject: A question on Bernina